What I personally see as benefitting the country is getting "campaign contributions" and the bribes that they are, out of our government and system, at least.
You misunderstand, Sevesteen. That's not true at all that "when this joint ownership is voluntary, it is no longer considered virtuous."
It's what you do with the joint ownership, that corporation. If you use it, as corporations do today, to hold down and keep down millions of people--and that's statistically verifiable in so many ways--and when the wealthy benefit grossly by and with this corporation and the use and functions of it but suppressing the very people who work for it or who buy from it, that's the problem and that's absolutely what's happening today and what has been happening for far too long.
A collection of like-minded individuals can take the form of things as diverse as book clubs and street gangs. Voluntary aggregation is not the point. Actions are what defines the value.
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At what point does collective ownership turn from a good thing to a bad thing--2 owners? 10 owners? 100 owners?
I don't know how you mean this.
What I personally see as benefitting the country is getting "campaign contributions" and the bribes that they are, out of our government and system, at least.
"At what point..." When the owners can no longer be held responsible for the actions or effects of that which they own?
It is odd to me that the extreme form of liberalism is collectivism--joint control of just about everything, joint benefit from success.
But when this joint ownership is voluntary, it is no longer considered virtuous. A corporation is merely ownership spread among many people.
You misunderstand, Sevesteen. That's not true at all that "when this joint ownership is voluntary, it is no longer considered virtuous."
It's what you do with the joint ownership, that corporation. If you use it, as corporations do today, to hold down and keep down millions of people--and that's statistically verifiable in so many ways--and when the wealthy benefit grossly by and with this corporation and the use and functions of it but suppressing the very people who work for it or who buy from it, that's the problem and that's absolutely what's happening today and what has been happening for far too long.
A collection of like-minded individuals can take the form of things as diverse as book clubs and street gangs. Voluntary aggregation is not the point. Actions are what defines the value.
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