The Founding Fathers on religion and our government?

Here you go. Here's one of our Founding Fathers and how serious he took the separation of church and state:



Faith based initiatives?  Funded by government?

I don't think so.

Churches just want to be able to discriminate, that's all

The Supreme Court in Washington began hearing the case today (Hosanna-Tabor Evangelical Lutheran Church vs. EEOC, see link, below) about the church who--get this--wants to be able to discriminate against its employees for whatever reason they deem fit (sexuality, age, disability, etc.) because they're supposed to be left alone by the state via the Constitution. Boy, that's a beauty. Sure, they also want tax deductions from that same state for the same reasons, then they want money from that same government in the form of "Faith-based initiatives", thanks to that last, ignorant administration out of the White House and now this. They really want everything. They want to have that cake and eat it, too. How a church could even remotely request, let alone demand, as they are here, that discrimination laws shouldn't apply to them is beyond the pale. It seems this Lutheran church isn't aware of that Jesus Christ guy and what he said and stood for. Sheesh. Link: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nationnow/2011/10/supreme-court-church-state-conflict-schools.html

Separation of Church and State

Remember that?

Remember how we used to stand for this principle?

No more.

Ever since that idiot 43rd President of ours ("W", to be clear) screwed up our country--and in so many ways--we've done away with this intelligent idea.

The whole term "Faith-based Inititatives" is enough to make me nearly scream.

Government doesn't belong in religion in any way, shape or form, period.

And religion, conversely, doesn't belong in government.

If you'd have been listening to our country for the last dozen or more years, you'd have thought some boneheaded Liberal came up with this idea, to get more money to the poor or something.

But no.

It was a Republican--a "Conservative" politician--that same George W. Bush.

It should never have been done.

And then, once created, once these same religions started both discriminating against people not of their same faith by not giving them jobs or whatever and, further, proselytizing people, with this same money or the promise of money or help, so that the person needing assistance was maybe talked into becoming part of that religious group, the money from "Uncle Sugar" should have been pulled.

Then, "Mr. Change", our new President (of whom, I have to say, I'm still a supporter), to add insult to this injury, promised to change this policy during the campaign but hasn't done anything near it yet:

"During a July 1, 2008, Zanesville, Ohio, speech, Obama promised to end Bush administration policies that permit publicly funded faith-based social service programs to proselytize and discriminate in hiring based on religion."

To date, no such thing. His council on this is studying reports, I see but that's it so far.

No, this "Faith-based" crap should never have been started.

And it should end now.

I want a bumper sticker: "Government out of religion. Religion out of government."

Let's get to it, Mr. President.


Link to related story:
http://www.au.org/media/press-releases/archives/2010/03/obama-inaction-on-faith-based.html