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Thursday, April 1, 2010
Scott Roeder's sentencing today:here's hoping
Let's hope he gets all the years they can pile on him, for assassinating Dr. George Tiller, in Dr. Tiller's church as he was volunteering on an otherwise quiet and peaceful Sunday morning, completely, totally and utterly premeditatedly.
What Men Want http://toylit.blogspot.com/2010/01/what-men-want-todays-news-poem-jan-29.html "My honest belief was that if I didn't do something they would continue to die." -Scott Roeder
The ancient women, wise with feral ways, Passed matrilineal traditions down From ape to human—knowing men could slay, With lust, their daughters. Deaths wore bridal gowns
Before connubial beds became their graves So brewing remedies these mothers saved All humankind. Resentful, men thought slaves Were made of them. He mastered war and raved
Against his mother—burning her to ash. Denounced as midwife: now we call her witch. Their wives and daughters—mothers died—the clash Of sexes won. Thus Woman, made a 'bitch,'
To breed and grieve perhaps before the next. The men would prise the fruit, more sons, from wombs That rarely lasted forty years. But text Reflected changing norms. In time, this grooms
A kinder sort of man who seeks a peer— If only theoretically. Rights, If slowly, catch the rhetoric—so dear To many—bringing new and awful blights.
I think I know this killer's thoughts, this guy Who shot that Kansas doc. He felt betrayed By fellow man: resolved to make him die And eased his guilt with Bible quotes. Unswayed,
The jury found enough to lock him up. A shame, because a woman now, receives In joy or rage a life from carnal tup That soon awaits abortionist's coarse sieves;
Because she knows she really wants what men Desire. To lust and grow and kill and feel— Not nothing—just flushing. She wants what men Desire: to fuck and kill and never heal;
To harvest death for medicines and soups Or trashed in plastic bags in cans on stoops. http://toylit.blogspot.com
I publish this last comment with some trepidation.
Actually, what I think women want--if I may be so bold as to conjecture--is to do what's right with their bodies, and for their child, man's interference be damned.
Thanks for reading, but your close-reading skills need some work. I put some bait in there to help identify the less sophisticated readers. Looks like you took the hook, line and sinker.
Consider that you are so dogmatically positioned, that you are unwilling to see that the poem opposes both your reading and your response to it.
Also, censorship is for cowards, who lack faith in the power of their own words to rebut an opposing posit. Keep that in mind when you consider deleting this follow-up.
b) I censored you earlier because you spoke ugly and ill-meaning of women. Ugliness and hate speech is the only thing I will not/do not allow in repsonses.
As I wrote to you earlier: I'd have gladly posted your last note but you referred to a woman or women in general as sluts. I don't do hate language and I don't reduce whole groups of people to other, ugly ones. I don't allow hate speech on my blog. If censorship is for cowards, in your eyes, so be it. I'm happy to have anyone and everyone read my blog and reply but I don't and won't allow ugliness on it. I'm sure you have your rules. That is virtually my only one.
I'm not so dogmatic, as you say, in that I don't require that anyone else think as I do. If you have a different opinion, so be it. If it's different than mine on abortion, I'll tell you you're wrong and leave it at that.
Censorship can, in fact, be for cowards, as you say, but that's not why I censor. I only censor so ugliness isn't distributed freely, at least not here. I leave that for the Fox "News" Network and their followers.
You need to learn better English. You aren't clear, frequently, with your writing.
As a means of purely keeping people from saying mean, ugly, vile or profane or slanderous things, I moderate comments. I'll get your comment up soon as possible (as long as it's not any of the above).
What Men Want
ReplyDeletehttp://toylit.blogspot.com/2010/01/what-men-want-todays-news-poem-jan-29.html
"My honest belief was that if I didn't do something they would continue to die."
-Scott Roeder
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE60S4UB20100129
The ancient women, wise with feral ways,
Passed matrilineal traditions down
From ape to human—knowing men could slay,
With lust, their daughters. Deaths wore bridal gowns
Before connubial beds became their graves
So brewing remedies these mothers saved
All humankind. Resentful, men thought slaves
Were made of them. He mastered war and raved
Against his mother—burning her to ash.
Denounced as midwife: now we call her witch.
Their wives and daughters—mothers died—the clash
Of sexes won. Thus Woman, made a 'bitch,'
To breed and grieve perhaps before the next.
The men would prise the fruit, more sons, from wombs
That rarely lasted forty years. But text
Reflected changing norms. In time, this grooms
A kinder sort of man who seeks a peer—
If only theoretically. Rights,
If slowly, catch the rhetoric—so dear
To many—bringing new and awful blights.
I think I know this killer's thoughts, this guy
Who shot that Kansas doc. He felt betrayed
By fellow man: resolved to make him die
And eased his guilt with Bible quotes. Unswayed,
The jury found enough to lock him up.
A shame, because a woman now, receives
In joy or rage a life from carnal tup
That soon awaits abortionist's coarse sieves;
Because she knows she really wants what men
Desire. To lust and grow and kill and feel—
Not nothing—just flushing. She wants what men
Desire: to fuck and kill and never heal;
To harvest death for medicines and soups
Or trashed in plastic bags in cans on stoops.
http://toylit.blogspot.com
I publish this last comment with some trepidation.
ReplyDeleteActually, what I think women want--if I may be so bold as to conjecture--is to do what's right with their bodies, and for their child, man's interference be damned.
mr
to think that women want "To lust and grow and kill and feel—Not nothing—just flushing. She wants what men
ReplyDeleteDesire: to fuck and kill and never heal;"
is pure bullshit.
If anyone feels, it's the woman.
This is so typically a man's assumption of what a woman wants.
Nonsense.
mr
Thanks for reading, but your close-reading skills need some work. I put some bait in there to help identify the less sophisticated readers. Looks like you took the hook, line and sinker.
ReplyDeleteConsider that you are so dogmatically positioned, that you are unwilling to see that the poem opposes both your reading and your response to it.
Also, censorship is for cowards, who lack faith in the power of their own words to rebut an opposing posit. Keep that in mind when you consider deleting this follow-up.
a) I didn't censor this;
ReplyDeleteb) I censored you earlier because you spoke ugly and ill-meaning of women. Ugliness and hate speech is the only thing I will not/do not allow in repsonses.
As I wrote to you earlier: I'd have gladly posted your last note but you referred to a woman or women in general as sluts. I don't do hate language and I don't reduce whole groups of people to other, ugly ones. I don't allow hate speech on my blog. If censorship is for cowards, in your eyes, so be it. I'm happy to have anyone and everyone read my blog and reply but I don't and won't allow ugliness on it. I'm sure you have your rules. That is virtually my only one.
I'm not so dogmatic, as you say, in that I don't require that anyone else think as I do. If you have a different opinion, so be it. If it's different than mine on abortion, I'll tell you you're wrong and leave it at that.
Censorship can, in fact, be for cowards, as you say, but that's not why I censor. I only censor so ugliness isn't distributed freely, at least not here. I leave that for the Fox "News" Network and their followers.
You need to learn better English. You aren't clear, frequently, with your writing.
mr